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Amplifier and/or Driver limited Sound Pressure Level

A) Power amplifier limited SPL of a dipole woofer

Given two different 10" drivers, and power amplifiers of 60 W and 180 W capability into 8 ohm, what on-axis, free-space SPL can be expected at 1 m from a dipole woofer with D = 15" (380 mm) between its front and rear wave exits? 

To answer this question I used closed-box1.xls with the parameter values in the following two tables. The spreadsheet can be used for dipole speakers by setting the box volume Vb to a value much larger than Vas and specifying D.

Peerless and Seas drivers:

 Parameter  10" -  XLS 830452  10" -  W26FX001  Units
 Re
 Le
 Fs
 Bl
 Qms
 Qes
 Qts
 3.4
 4.3
 18.9
 17.5
 2.63
 0.18
 0.17
 6.3
 1.43
 20
 10.7
 2.28
 0.41
 0.35
 ohm
 mH
 Hz
 N/A
 ---
 ---
 ---
 Rms
 Mms
 Cms
 Vas
 6.12
 135.3
 0.52
 89.7
 3.3
 60
 1.1
 161
 Ns/m
 g
 mm/N
 l
 Sd
 Xmax
 Sd Xmax
 352
 12.5
 440
 330
 7
 231
 cm2
 mm
 cm3

ATI power amplifiers:

 Parameter  AT6012  AT1806  Units
 P
 Vp
 Ip
 60
 30.9
 3.9
 180
 53.5
 6.7
 W
 V
 A
 Imax  7  12  A (estimated values!)

For an estimate of the SPL level in the room add 6 dB to the free-space numbers in the graphs for 2p radiation, and another 6 dB for the use of two woofer cabinets. If two drivers are used in each cabinet, and each driver has its own amplifier, then add 6 dB more for a total of 18 dB. But, if the two drivers are connected in parallel and driven from a single amplifier, then you can add the last 6 dB only as long as the amplifier is not limited by its Imax. 

The first graph is for the 180 W amplifier and assumes that it can deliver almost twice its normal 8 ohm current of 6.7 A into a lower impedance load. At frequencies below 36 Hz the amplifier can easily drive the 10" XLS to its Xmax of 12.5 mm. Between 36 Hz and 88 Hz the SPL is limited by the 53.5 V peak swing of the amplifier, and above 88 Hz it is additionally limited by its 12 A maximum current capability. The W26 driver has 5.6 dB less volume displacement, Sd Xmax, than the 10" XLS. It also has a weaker motor, but that is compensated by lower moving mass and higher compliance. The result it that the SPL is now excursion limited to 66 Hz, albeit at less output than the XLS. Above 66 Hz the W26 motion is voltage limited. The current never comes up to its 12 A maximum. Note that above 66 Hz there is little difference in obtainable output from either driver when used with the 180 W amplifier.  

Using the 60 W amplifier with an estimated Imax = 7 A yields almost identical SPL from the two drivers above 44 Hz, but the level is about 5 dB = 10 log(180W/60W) lower than for the higher power amplifier. Only below 22 Hz is the SPL limited by Xmax for the 10" XLS driver. Above 22 Hz SPL becomes voltage limited up to 88 Hz and current limited above. The SPL from the W26, by comparison, is excursion limited below 44 Hz and voltage limited above. Again, as with the 180 W amplifier, the output never becomes current limited. So if you used the lower power amplifier, then the higher displacement 10" XLS has no SPL benefit above 44 Hz, but below 44 Hz it can provide up to 5.6 dB = 20 log(440cm3/231cm3) higher SPL. In the case of the 180 W amplifier the SPL advantage of the XLS over the W26 is below 66 Hz.

The relationship between SPL, driver parameters and amplifier parameters is complicated as these examples hopefully illustrated. Each combination of amplifiers and drivers must be analyzed to determine its sound level output potential. Equalization merely shapes the acoustic frequency response and gives full use of a driver's capability.

FAQ - Phoenix

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Amplifier and/or Driver limited Sound Pressure Level

B) Electrical and mechanical limits  
to the maximum sound output from a closed box woofer

I have observed considerable confusion about the power requirements for a subwoofer. This is not surprising since the interaction between mechanical and electrical parameters of the subwoofer is complex and makes general statements very difficult. I will use the example of the THOR in conjunction with the spreadsheet closed-box1.xls to illustrate how the power amplifier and the maximum excursion capability of the driver limit the sound output. A similar analysis has also been done for a dipole woofer.

The analysis here is for the Peerless XLS 830500 driver, but any other driver data can be used in the spreadsheet. Alister Sibbald added a driver data base to the rearranged spreadsheet. Being able to see the graph change as you change the variables gives better insight into the way the variables interact: Closed-Box-WithDriverDb.xls 

In all calculations I use Xmax = 12.5 mm. Let's start with the driver mounted in a sealed box of 47 liter (1.7 ft3) internal volume and driven from an amplifier with 75 W output capability into 8 ohm. For a sinewave signal this corresponds to a 34.5 V peak voltage and the amplifier, therefore, has probably +/-36 V supply rails. Depending upon the transformer and storage capacitor sizes in the power supply the output voltage will not vary significantly when the load impedance is changed. Ideally this same amplifier would have capability of 150 W into 4 ohm, and 300 W into 2 ohm. This would mean that the output devices can deliver 4.3 A peak into 8 ohm, 8.6 A into 4 ohm, and 17.2 A into 2 ohm. In practice the current capability of the output stage is limited and the 75 W amplifier might have a spec of 120 W into 4 ohm, not 150 W. 

Figure 1 below shows the maximum SPL that the driver could generate at 1 m in  free-space for 12.5 mm peak excursion, and the SPL it will generate when driven from the 75 W amplifier at different frequencies. The actual power delivered has the dimension of Volt-Ampere not Watt, since voltage and current are not necessarily in phase. Starting at low frequencies note that less than 75 VA is needed to obtain Xmax. 

 

The power drops even further as the 36 Hz resonance frequency for  the driver in the box is approached. Due to the increasing terminal impedance near resonance the fixed 34.5 V of the amplifier does not drive sufficient current through the voice coil and the SPL starts to deviate from the maximum possible. The sound output has become limited by the amplifier voltage. Above 59 Hz more than 75 VA are consumed as the current increases with decreasing terminal impedance. Around 80 Hz the 120 W into 4 ohm spec of the amplifier is reached. At higher frequencies the power demand goes as high as 165 W when the SPL follows the constant amplifier output voltage. The amplifier may not be capable of this current and the SPL could become current limited in addition to being voltage limited already.

The obvious solution for increasing SPL is to use a larger power amplifier, Figure 2. Going to an amplifier with 150 W into 8 ohm increases the output voltage by 3 dB to 48.8 V peak. Correspondingly the available SPL increases up to 3 dB above 22 Hz. The general shape of the curves is the same as for 75 W with current limiting potentially controlling the maximum SPL above 72 Hz for an amplifier that is specified at 225 W into 4 ohm.

It is interesting to observe the effects of a smaller enclosure, Figure 3, and a larger one, Figure 4. Both cases are for a 150 W amplifier. The resonance frequency increases to around 46 Hz due to increased stiffness of the 25 liter box volume. This requires more amplifier power below resonance, but less above it. The maximum obtainable sound output is essentially identical to the 47 liter box in Figure 2.

The same driver in a 470 liter box in Figure 4 has its resonance around 20 Hz and requires little power at low frequencies to reach maximum excursion of 12.5 mm, but above resonance it takes more power than for the 25 liter or 47 liter boxes in Figure 3 and Figure 2. The reasons for the differences in power requirements of the three different box sizes are not immediately obvious. One cannot make a flat statement saying that a smaller box requires more power. It depends upon which part of the frequency range one is talking about. The same goes for the larger box. What can be stated in general are the following limitations to maximum sound output:

  1. The woofer's Xmax limits the maximum SPL at the low end of its frequency range. Amplifier power is rarely an issue.
  2. Going up in frequency the amplifier is likely to have a clipped output voltage. The driver impedance is still relatively high in the frequency region above its mechanical resonance. The voltage, required to drive the current that is necessary to reach Xmax, is not available from the amplifier's power supply.
  3. At the high end of the woofer's frequency range Xmax can typically not be obtained, because the current that can be delivered is limited by the safe current capability of the amplifier's output devices and the power supply's storage capacitors. The driver impedance has a minimum in this frequency region and even when the amplifier's output voltage is within its range, the current becomes limited.

The ideal amplifier would have variable supply rail voltages, so that it can deliver large current when the voltage is low and only needs to supply high voltage when the current demand is low.

The Peerless XLS drivers have a very strong motor and it is interesting to see what would happen if the flux density was less, so that Bl = 10 N/A instead of the specified Bl = 17.6 N/A for the 830500. With all other parameters unchanged the Qt now increases to 1.1 in the 47 liter box. Practically at all frequencies more power is required to reach the same SPL as in Figure 2.

It should be clear from the examples that amplifier power is not an issue at the low frequency end of the subwoofer range, but at high frequencies. The lowest frequency output is driver excursion limited. The high power requirement above resonance is due to the driver's moving mass that must be accelerated. 

Equalizing the frequency response of a woofer with a "Linkwitz Transform" does not require any more power over what the driver can handle for maximum excursion without damage. Such equalization merely makes it easier to run the driver voice coil into its mechanical stops. Whether such equalization is useful depends solely upon the driver's volume displacement capability and the desired sound levels.

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